Friday, June 12, 2009

Gay Pride in Jerusalem 2009

This year's gay pride march (June 25) will march in the opposite direction from the route of the last two years. It will start at Gan Ha-Pa'amon at 4:00 p.m., with the march itself beginning at 5:00 and proceeding to Gan Ha-Atzmaut for a rally at 6:00 p.m. In a way, I think the route change is a pity, since for the last two years it's meant that one can then easily walk further on to Emek Refaim to enjoy hanging out with friends after the rally. It should be fun, in any case, as long as there aren't Haredi riots against the march.

17 comments:

  1. I'm a volunteer at the organization putting on the March, and I'm glad to see support. More info can be found at http://www.joh.org.il/index.php?id=1321

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  3. I've deleted the above comment because it was insulting. Insulting, racist, sexist, or homophobic comments will be deleted.

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  4. Should have known the blog was only for supporters. Facts will free people of their misconceptions and you wouldn't want that.

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  5. Eliyahu, if you write in a clear, non-insulting manner I will leave your comments up. Otherwise, no. It's my blog, and I get to make the rules. Put up your own blog to get your point of view across.

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  6. Rebecca,
    Blogs are for opinions. Well this is HaSheims world and you better start knowing that He makes the rules in this world and the next. Better read the Torah and know the rules because you advocate breaking them.
    BTW, once my children got past four they lost the "it's mine and I make the rules."

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  7. Yes, Eliyahu, blogs are for opinions, and this is my blog, not yours. As I said before, if you want to push your own opinions, set up your own blog.

    It's always so nice to be confronted by someone who thinks he knows the mind of God. Has God spoken to you personally to let you know what his plans are? Remember the friends of Job - they thought they knew the mind of God, and in the end, God commended Job, and not them, for speaking correctly.

    And don't tell me that you know because it's written in the Torah. The Jewish tradition is a tradition of interpretation, not of literal readings of scripture.

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  8. The Torah portion that you negate has never been interpreted by the wise and learned to allow what mathematical logic proves to be an end to the human race when brought to it's conclusion. How do you get around the fact that it requires a man and a woman to procreate and that that is a evolutionary improvement because it continues the process. You simply advocate a destruction of the human race. Do you raise your cup and say לחיים או למוות? And what about all those red herrings like "it's always so nice", "someone who knows the mind of", and comparing yourself to איוב. Oh brother.

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  9. Dear Eliyahu -

    You obviously have a lot to fight about. Maybe you've chosen the wrong venue to take up your stick.

    It is people like you that give the religious and religion a bad name. And in fact, the base of all evil in the world. If there is a God, and you ever have the honor of an encounter - you should be afraid because he will not be pleased which how you have treated his other children.

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  10. Thank you for your comments, Michelle.

    Look, I'm not advocating that all people become gay, Eliyahu, if that's what you're afraid of. In fact, most people are heterosexual and will remain so. And, some gays father children and some lesbians give birth to children - so the world isn't going to end if there are a few people who prefer to love those of the same sex. The question I have is why does this upset you so much?

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  11. Fight is so harsh, some would say even unkind. By upset if you mean like a vase being tipped over I wouldn't argue. Please just give me a reference over 100 years old that tried to justify a sexual union between men.

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  12. Why do I need a "reference over 100 years old"? I don't live a hundred years ago, I live now.

    Homosexuality is a natural phenomenon, like heterosexuality. It doesn't need justification. We just need to recognize the reality that some people are attracted to members of the same sex.

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  13. The implication that you either missed or sidestepped is that you will have a difficult time finding sexual relations between men condoned and not condemned. Alas you must think that you and the current age is so much smarter. Natural not a bit. It is rather against nature and all that is known of evolution because it ends the species. It is mathematically illogical and a perfect Creator doesn't make mathematical mistakes hence it is forbidden.

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  14. You don't find premarital sex condoned often either but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

    Your arguments are illogical and now you've simply made an argument that there is no GOD.

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  15. Eliyahu, your argument would work better if you just relied on the Torah, and didn't bring in math or evolution. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this issue, since we're clearly not going to convince each other.

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  16. This ignorance is just pathetic. If things didn't change over the years, we wouldn't have an internet for this discussion. If you just look at things with a narrow specific set of factors, like religion or evolution, you'll never understand. Let's say, just for argument, that homosexuality is against evolution. So what? Stupidity is also againt evolution. Nearly everything we do increases our chances for death. Humans are not like other creatures; we don't live just to make the next generation.

    None of this matters, of course. The fact is, other people being gay will not harm anyone, so why does it bother you so much?

    Anyway, the parade and rally were today, and they were a lot of fun. I took tons of pictures and a few videos as well. The energy was great and I enjoyed it a lot.

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  17. Yes, wasn't it great? I really enjoyed it. I just posted some of my photos of the march on the blog.

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